{"id":194,"date":"2009-07-20T08:07:03","date_gmt":"2009-07-20T08:07:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nybankruptcy.net\/main\/?p=194"},"modified":"2018-12-05T06:25:04","modified_gmt":"2018-12-05T06:25:04","slug":"what-you-should-know-about-the-credit-counseling-requirement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nybankruptcy.net\/main\/what-you-should-know-about-the-credit-counseling-requirement\/","title":{"rendered":"What you should know about the credit counseling requirement"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-198\" title=\"confusion\" src=\"https:\/\/nybankruptcy.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/confusion.jpg\" alt=\"confusion\" width=\"156\" height=\"164\" \/>&#8220;Credit counseling&#8221; has a couple different meanings and common uses, and it can be very confusing for anyone considering bankruptcy in New York.\u00a0 So I thought I would to take a moment to clarify.<\/p>\n<p>One meaning is the credit counseling requirement <a title=\"US Code 109(h)\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bankruptcy_Abuse_Prevention_and_Consumer_Protection_Act\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">under the 2005 Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (aka BAPCPA)<\/a>.\u00a0 All individual debtors are required to participate in a credit counseling course before they can file for bankruptcy.<\/p>\n<p>Credit counseling is also often used to refer to companies that provide &#8220;credit counseling services.&#8221;\u00a0 These companies are usually non-profit entities (though don&#8217;t believe for a second that they don&#8217;t make a profit).\u00a0 They are a non-bankruptcy alternative and are typically only able to help individuals in a limited way by consolidating their credit card debt.\u00a0 As I explained in a previous post&#8211;&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/nybankruptcy.net\/2009\/06\/07\/dont-believe-the-hype-credit-counseling-services-and-debt-settlement-companies\/\">Don&#8217;t believe the hype:\u00a0 Credit counseling services and debt settlement companies<\/a>&#8220;&#8211;they are generally not a good option for individuals.\u00a0 They charge an up-front fee.\u00a0 They are not necessarily reliable.\u00a0 There are very few checks and balances on their activities.\u00a0 And they are, in effect, collection agencies for the credit card companies.<\/p>\n<p>So there are two potential meanings to credit counseling.\u00a0 One a legal requirement, and the other a service best avoided.<\/p>\n<p>The confusion doesn&#8217;t entirely end there, however.\u00a0 In order to fulfill the credit counseling requirement before you file for bankruptcy, you must participate in a <strong>credit counseling course<\/strong>.\u00a0 The credit counseling course can be administered by any entity that gets licensed to provide the course.\u00a0 That entity can be a lawyer or law firm.\u00a0 It can also be a credit counseling agency (i.e., the kind I just described that wants to &#8220;help&#8221; you with your debt).\u00a0 Or it could be any other company or entity that obtained the license to administer the course.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s helpful to know that you can take the one-time course over the phone or even by internet, and you can complete it pretty much any time day or night.\u00a0 It takes about 2 hours and costs about $50 (though that fee can be waived for people who genuinely cannot afford it).\u00a0 Your lawyer can always provide you with a list of accredited providers.\u00a0 There is also a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usdoj.gov\/ust\/eo\/bapcpa\/ccde\/CC_Files\/CC_Approved_Agencies_HTML\/cc_new_york\/cc_new_york.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">list of accredited providers<\/a> of the required credit counseling course on-line at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usdoj.gov\/ust\/eo\/bapcpa\/ccde\/CC_Files\/CC_Approved_Agencies_HTML\/cc_new_york\/cc_new_york.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">website of the Office of the U.S. Trustee<\/a>.\u00a0 (Note that it is organized by court district, i.e., Eastern District of New York, Northern District of New York, Southern District of New York, Western District of New York.)<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s worth being aware that, if you&#8217;re married, you and your spouse must both take the course.\u00a0 However, you only need to pay the course fee once.<\/p>\n<p>Also, you should be aware that, from the date you take the course, your bankruptcy filing must be done within 6 months.\u00a0 If not, then you have to take the course again.<\/p>\n<p>Whether the required credit counseling course will actually be helpful to you is a whole separate issue.\u00a0 For now, however, the main point is that it is required.\u00a0 On the other hand, a credit counseling agency is definitely <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">not<\/span> a requirement.<\/p>\n<p>For more information on filing for <a href=\"https:\/\/nybankruptcy.net\/main\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bankruptcy attorney Brooklyn NY<\/a>&#8211;whether in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, The Bronx, Staten Island or Suffolk County, Long Island&#8211;please <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nybankruptcy.net\/main\/contact\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">contact us for a <strong>free initial consultation<\/strong><\/a> to get all of your questions answered and make sure you know all of your options.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Credit counseling&#8221; 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